stepped inside but know they stuck a camera inside of the window. they take a look at what the police chief described as a vexing problem. there is a series of trip wires hooked up to fire bombs. some kind of unnamed chemical. and jars filled with an anything rounds. and what appear to be mortar rounds, there has been discussion of sending robots inside of the apartment to possibly control detonation of whatever is inside. but police appear to be in no hurry right now to get inside of the apartment until they have a good plan for what is inside there and how they're going to diffuse thachl you heard the chief talking about getting help from the feds. there are experts can make sure there is a safe plan. what they couldn't don't want to do is injure personnel and cause destruction to property

and something that clearly don't want to do is destroy what should be an abundant supply of evidence. so what we can see right now is that they have secured this permanent ter around five apartment buildings in the real estate. we've seen all they're doing is securing the perimeter. all of the ladder crews are gone. bomb squadds are gone. police are gone from the scene here now. they're keeping people from getting inside of the apartment building. greta? >> and i read a neighbor heard music playing loudly over and over again and she went up stairs and knocked on the door to tell him to stop playing music. saw the door open and almost went in. and i wonder is that what -- just think how lucky she is that she didn't didn't walk in. >> that is just remarkable.

and possibly the music was meant to set up an ally by of people said they heard mugsic it could have been a distraction. so it's hard to tell what is going on in his mind and whether this music was on a timer through a computer. >> and explain the apartment building. tell me about the area and where this is. i understand neuroscience building is right near there. >> i don't know about the proximity of the university but there is a high school nearby. what we have going on in the high school for unfortunate people who live in these apartment buildings that is where they're forced to seek shelter, some people have been able to go to that high school, contact police and police have been taking them in drips and drabs back into the apartment

building and there is a main apartment building, no one is allowed to go back. but some people have been able to come and go. we've seen police checking on lights burning and make sure no one is where they shouldn't oob have you had a chance to talk to any of the neighbors? anyone who knows him? >> what we're seeing is through the internet. there is a description of a quiet guy. didn't seem to get along with peoplement kept to himself. probably spent a lot of time up in the apartment planning whatever he intended to execute. and now know he executed. >> we don't know why the batman movie, midnight movie, why now? it's part of the investigation. there is nothing we can piece together tonight on that. >> nudging from the scene

close to the apartment building. >> thank you. >> right now, many still being treated there. this intensive care unit director joins us. good evening, sir. can you tell me the condition of the patients at your facility? >> good evening, there are seven patients in the hospital. three on the floor. four in icu. they're critical and stable. >> does that mean it's your opinion assuming no unforeseen consequence that's everyone is going live at your hospital? >> that is difficult to predict but they're doing well at this point. they're being monitored closely. we're optimistic that they'll do well.

>> how close is the gunman to the people? can you make a determination about that? >> we don't know how close the defendant was to the individuals. we know there are a couple different types of injuries the individual sustained. and from he shotgun, rifle or pift kol but don't know how close. >> when did you first hear about this shoot something. >> i heard about it this morning. and they first arrived at our hospital about 12 krn 20 this morning and there are our onsite trauma surgeons as well as e.r.staff there taking care of patients. >> if first patient arrived at 12:20 it seems that moved quickly. i assume that that is good in terms of care and better

chance of survival if there is a serious injury and get to the hospital quickly. >> yes. police did a good job of recognizing there is significant injuries and bringing patients to the hospital promptly. our emergency room staff and physicians on site were prepared and extremely good job of organizing their care in a quick manner. >> could you have taken more? >> there are more events but we're quite busy. >> and that is another consideration is that it's so many hospitals are filled and they can accommodate so many. in many ways that is a colorado has -- we're lucky there are so many beds in that area. am i right? >> yes. we're a level two trauma center so we're -- we have

capacity to care for a number of patients and do do mass trauma drills. we're prepared and can can go for these rare events when they occur. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> and this deadly chaos started when the gunman set off gas canisters before people ran for their lives. victims had to be treated for chemical exposure, and good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta. >> explain what you think chemical injuries were. >> sound like what various doctors comment aid tear gas that caused searing and irritation to the eyes and skin of the body. they didn't cause serious injuries.

and did and were very irritating. it's interesting. one of the people just interviewed made one of the canisters sound like a flash bang type of device that police sometimes use to startle people they're about to run in to take into custody. and this has a loud bang and a explosive mist that can cause a fire. >> and i suspect, i don't know, but expect that whatever he did toss was an effort to further terrorize people so he can do greater damage. >> yes. >> i mean, don't you assume that that is what the use of the chemical weapon was? >> yes. i think chemicals disoriented and confused people he was shooting. >> what do you make of the

booby trap in the apartment? or suspected booby trap? >> this is being treated properly. there is no reason to go in quickly. they've got it surrounded what is interesting is that homes have been killed in the course of the shooting which is a real possibility. where that is why they're wearing armor and all. then, nobody would have known about the booby trap and would have been likely police might have opened up the door in a normal fashion without taking precautions because of what he told them. and that would have created more injuries. >> and if you heard the interview i read there is a woman who lives bee neenl him who apparently left music on and kept repeating and

repeating about midnight. she went up to tell him to stop doing it. saw the door open and thought about going in. but didn't. and then, called police about the music. the police said we're busy with a shooting but she's another phone shall victim of this. if it's a booby trap like that. >> that is mike tobin's information was very important f she'd opened it up, depending on how much explosive material there is, in different bottles and canisters there could have blown the building up and adjacent buildings. and this soda wot bottles and cans the material was in could be fertilizer like murrow building which filled up ammonia. all have you to do is put

gasoline on it and detonate witness a trip wire. and could with and that could have an explolgs -- explosion causing great damage to buildings and people in them as well as neighbor underneath. >> one of the difficult things people understand is that this occurred after midnight and bodies were left inside until 5:00 this afternoon. and that is done for investigative reasons was it not? >> absolutely. because this is a crime scene. you have ten crime scenes, 10 bodies have to be photographed. any time there is surrounding evidence would have to be collected remember, two or three years from now when this should doum trial, all that have is going to be extremely

important and in showing that holmes, what he did, what he created and it took time and effort to do it. that he wasn't doing it on spur of the moment. it's some kind of insanity situation so. that was very proper and takes time. then, today, coroner will identify those bodies and do toxology and see what were in the gases inhaled by the people. taking from holmes rngs police will to see if he was in any drugs. >> and i'm anxious to find out. he made a statement outside saying his apartment was booby trapped. i'm curious what statements he made if he did. and i assume we'll hear that later. >> yes. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and straight ahead, you thought it was a prank. that was, until a suspect

pulled a gun, you'll hear a survivor, next. >> he pulled out a gun and that just when it got real.

chaos outside of a colorado movie theater.

a scene so violent that movie goers didn't think it was real. fans thought fire alarms and smoke were just part of the film but it was all too real. we spoke with andrew bowers and lance barns. they survived this shooting. >> i suppose good news is that both of you made it out of the theater. >> we did. thank god. >> tell me when did you first notice there is a problem? >> right when the door swung open. just seemed irregular lar. guy walked in wearing a gas mass skpk threw a canister into the air, pulled out a gun. you knew something is going wrong. we had to do something. just jumped on the ground. tried to protect our self autos were you in the third row? >> yet right about center. >> how far were you from the closest to him? >> probably 20 feet. we're really cross close. >> seeing the doors swing open i thought it was an usher coming in.

then i saw a mask i thought he's going along with the movie. like employees are there to have fun too, you know? so he came in and he just threw that gas thing i was like, i thought someone was just coming in to prank or something then pulled out that gun that is just it got real. and we dove on the ground. i reached in the pocket dialed 911 and set the phone down. i didn't want him to see me dialing on a don phone. >> did he say anything? >> he couldn't hear with movie still playing in the background. there is explosion and action scenes and sound of the gun you couldn't hear anything. i don't think he said anything. it doesn't sound like he had time. i didn't hear anything. this just seemed like shootings. >> could you see him shoot people?

you saw him killing people? >> we're in the third row. we saw him taking aim at the back top half of the theater. we didn't know. the first shot looked like just a warning shot. so we didn't know if that meant cooperate. and we started to hear panic and everybody just running. people trying to run back to where they had the film room up there. the door swung open. people trying to get back there to get to cover. i only saw half a second then just tried to get back done on the ground. i can't imagine what is going on there. >> what he left what happened? did people get snup. >> we were one of the first people to get out. we got on the ground. after i dialed 911 and set the phone down we saw everybody on that side just ran out. they didn't get on the round. we crawled to the left and

then just slightly... weren't sure whether to run for hallway. and then, so we just looked like should we go? it's like is this the right thing to do? you never know what is the right decision. so then we just decided to get out of there. he's just shooting too much. you didn't want to talk. nothing but bad intentions so we just got out of there. >> and coming up what's happening now? at this moment? what is the suspect say something next. >> i heard the sound of metallv3

number right now 12 dead, 58 people injured during a premier of the new batman film. we're in colorado with the latest. what is going on next door? >> one stories we're hearing this is eerie. the last body came out just a couple hours ago. into the day cell phones were ringing inside. people dropped them fleeing the scene or they were part of people that were deceased inside. that has got to be eerie, to be a investigator trying to find out ballistics and everything and trying to figure out ballistics how many shots did he fire? so and that is happening and

cell phones are ringing trying to find their loved one autos there is a man here tonight with a members of the media saying he had been shot and looking for his girm friend. he hadn't heard from her. of course not one of us said anything but we had the same thought. >> there are other thing goesing on. there are 11 people in intensive care. there are a number of active scenes. this is behind me, who knows when that is going to reopen and what is going to happen with the theater and there is where the suspect used to work down the street. there are bomb dogs out there making sure that is okay. the suspect now not speaking. you've got the families being notified and 11 people still in serious condition, critical condition in the hospital. and i know one person came out of, i know one of her friends from california. she had just gotten out of surgery at 4:00 she almost lost part of her leg. they saved the lower part of

the leg so to get blood to it. you're hearing story goesing on and on. and. >> this is thinking about this. 24 hours ago people were lined up to go to a movie with friends and loved ones and there is a level of cruelty. >> you hear the same thing. you never expect to it happen to me. people say that. you've got to, we've done that and gone to a premier or big night at the movies and seen the place packed and been excited and we talked about this how it's going to be a big opening. we cover this. and that is one thing we talked about they're expecting massive crowds and so you know what it's like. four, five screens filled. this guy just walked nchl the

guys in the first two rows said suspect just walked right in. and basically walked past them, shot one shot into the keeling and then went after those towards the middle. first couple rows were spared. that is what the guy said z this is just some unbelievable stories of survival. >> one of the weird things is what we call him. alleged killer. the suspect. as a lawyer you mean, the presummation of innocence. but when the guy walks outside and waits for the police, and he makes a statement about his apartment, it's almost, you know, i'm not sure whether to say alleged or not. i feel silly to say alleged. >> right. and there is orm things you can add. did he ranged. takes a sick person. >> or evil person. >> this is -- people want answer autos yes. you can't blame someone or politics all the time. and you can't blame guns all

the time. there is evil in this world that. isere last night. >> this was planned. >> absolutely. and there is looking at the apartment and he had to buy stuff. he got and had to get chemicals and everything. so planned. >> apartment is interesting too. we talked about this about how he planned the apartment there is music blairing. think about that. and in college i remember someone would knock the door open or cops would come to knock it open. it won't be out of the ordinary to happen. and there is a plan, it looks like stuff could have exploded. i think it's going to put a small device in. there is no place to start. they have no place to start so

they may give a starting spot. >> i want to start by saying how proud i am of the men and women in the police department and fire department. chief of the fire department is here with us. and okay, there are 70 injured in this event. and as of this time, 12 dead. still... number is 10 in the theater. and last of the bodies were removed from the theater after 5:00 this afternoon. i think today i said others were all hit by gunfire. i know a handful of the people brought to area hospitals were not hit by gunfire and suffered other injuries as a result of the chaos in the theater. i can't tell you how many that. it's a small number. nearly everyone is shot. and little information about our subject. and... weapons obtained.

he purchased four guns at shops and through the internet. he purchased over 6000 rounds of ammunition for the assault rifle. and 3,000 for glocs in his position. and also, through the internet, he purchased multiple magazines for the 223 assault rifle including one, 100 round drum magazine i've been asked was it automatic? i can't answer that question right now. and if it's semi automatic i'm told that that is he could have gotten off 50-60 rounds. as far as we know there is a rapid pace of fire in that

theater. >> this evening at 4:00 members of the police department and many supporting agencies that have provided victim service advocates to support us met with approximately seven family and friends, 70 members of family and friends who have not had an accounting of missing loved ones. we met with them approximately 90 minutes and discussed efforts identify the 10 bodies in the theater. and did the best we could to deal with their grief. we're hopeful sometime in the next hour we'll get a confirmed ligs of the 10 deegs eased and we'll begin the agonize prog ses of meeting with those families and confirming what happened to their loved ones. i can't emphasize support of

our colleagues and local law enforcement that have been handling that task and aided by our own police department psychologists aurora public schools made available two high schools for tomorrow beginning at 9:00 a.m. for professional grief counseling and other resources including aurora mental health and red cross. two schools open at 9:00 a.m. and the superintendent was with us to meet with families and support of the superintendent has been tremendous. in addition, we'll talk about the parastreet location. we've evacuated five apartment buildings including the apartment building as a subject. they have been staying at central high school. again with support of aurora public schools w regard to the location this is a vexing

problem. and i'm a layman when it comes to bomb stuff. i've seen a lot of wires and trip wires and jars full of ammunition and quick yid, something things that look like mortar rounds. there is a lot of challenges to get in there safely. we decided to postpone election on that sometime. we needed a break and with the help of the federal government were bringing in extra resources to consult exactly how to deal with that problem. >> and and unfortunately the family has been evacuated and we're at this time allowing families one by one to go back

into four of the five buildings to retrieve necessities like med skpx those types of things. our hope is that we'll resolve that to. with regard to the investigation i can tell you we know a little bit more about our subject. and there is a voluntary separation. he hails from riverside, california and attended uc riverside campus, neighbors report he live add lone and kept to himself. >> coming up, who is the suspect james holmes? what is going on in his department now is in the police say he booby trapped it with explosives. there is new information by the minute. deta

we're back live in aurora, colorado. what are we finding out about

the suspect? brenda stewart from koa radio joins us. now news about the joker and mr. james holmes. >> he was found with body armor, gas masks on and when he was stopped by police which he made it apparently very easy to find him he had his hair painted red like spray painted and reportedly told them i'm the joker. and the joker was not in the movie. >> and did he say anything else besides that? >> so made a comment that this isn't over. he apparently wanted, i should say allegedly. because i heard you talking about that earlier. he apparently wanted to take down as many people as possible. he lived in an apartment complex with five buildings and they had to go and evacuate them so police still

cannot get inside of his apartment to where they found explosives and might might be a couple days before they can get in there. his parents are outside of san diego, they've issued a statement saying our hearts go out to everybody affected by this tragedy. please respect our privacy. bob and arlene holmes by all accounts neighbors say lived a perfectly normal live. they called their son jimmy, everybody in the neighborhood called him jimmy. not james, and his mother arlene is a nurse. >> greta: they say they want privacy what. do you do? we recall every person we've been the phone all day. and have tried to get to talk to people. i imagine parents are getting calls. >> i'm sure they are. it's important to step back to realize we don't need to

victimize these people. they're probably ashamed and embarrassed and asked for privacy. i know they feel probably bad about this. do by hound the suspect? i guarantee there will be cameras in the courtroom monday morning when james holmes makes a first court appearance at 8:30 and i don't see that as victimizing a suspect. >> i'm confused about what he was doing here, enroll roled in what type of program? >> he was apparently brilliant enrolled in neuroscience. >> greta: what saturday z that mean? what part? >> we don't know exactly. he was getting his hpd. i thought it was premed. he was interested in the medical field. he came out here to get his phd at the university of colorado. and he graduated from regular, from college with a bachelor of science with honors from

university of california riverside. >> and this is a classic thing we say. lives alone, no one knows about him. it's -- it's almost eerie how we seem to pull up the same descriptions. >> it's true he apparently didn't become a recluse until he moved to colorado. he started having problems in school and dropped out of the program, and became more aloof and quiet. neighbors say they knew very little about him until they heard music blairing from the apartment. >> greta: has anyone come forward saying i had a conversation with him and one two,, three, four days leading up to this? >> the problem is that we tend to hound people. maybe they're just not stepping forward. >> i want to know what he was like 12 hours before this happened, where he was. i'm interested in 24 hours,

that is what i want to know. >> nobody is k.say this is a spur of the moment thing. the guns found including semi automatic weapons were purchased here locally in the past month. and they found thousands of pounds of ammunition ordered online. >> lots of planning. thank you very much. >> and griff jenkins is here with us in aurora, colorado. he spoke with shirley copeland who was on a date last night when this unfolded. >> she was on a date night with his girlfriend. how are you doing? >> doing all right. doing okay. >> what happened? tell me what you saw. what you felt. >> well, i was in theater 8 versus theater 9 which it appears he entered. and i think that the immediate thought is when, when explosions happen, in the theater, and a gun fight scene,

you think someone is messing around. and when you realize people are running out are bleeding, and this report is that there is a shooter in the lobby and you can't leave, it changes your perspective a little bit. >> how long were you in this theater? take me through the time frame. start to finish. did you go through the crowd? how concerned were you for your safety? >> yeah. we basically with a feeling of helplessness. and about to minutes all you can do is pray. and when you're not allowed to leave. and you feel you're in a room. we ended up going through upper exit and through gas canisters to run into the lobby. and there is a police officer that yelled "get down". that has multiple meanings in

a time of crisis. >> i know your girlfriend's car is still in the lot. you can't get it. is she okay? >> yeah. she's okay. she's fine. it's just we need to figure out a way to get to the car but it looks like everything is taped off for now. >> greta: new information about the mass shooting suspect. that is next.

we're back live in colorado james holmes was armed with several guns and police believe he booby trapped his apartment. jim, what are the police telling you tonight? >> as you know police have an active scene over there in the apartment where james holmes lived across perfect a hospital he was a young student there, a graduate student. the building found to be booby trapped there are trip wires in and around the apartment building. the police chief says he's never seen anything like this before. earlier in the morning they brought in big ladder trucks in the fire department and they put a probe inside then used a camera to take a look at what is in there. and that is when they realized

is so bad, police decided to back off for the night they're going to wait to go in tomorrow hopefully with daylight get a better look. it's been a long day and a sad day for a lot of people. especially investigators and families here. >> is this -- do you know whether or not the suspect is talking? >> the chief said he said a few things and it's holmes that tipped them off about the place being possibly booby trapped and there are other explosives. she says he would not talk about a motive or anything else beyond that. the chief very kurt when asked about that tonight. >> greta: is the police, the police department are they going to bring in people from out of town who might be experts in booby traps?

>> there is atf agents here and they pulled in here and at approximately 9:00 or sock there is a lot of man power and equipment. those people happen to be exnerts any sort of dismantling. and there is an encampment. there are tents set up. fire trucks around the building and there is wanting to make sure they can put out fires quickly. and there is five apartment buildings where people live in and around suspect building now evacuated tonight. >> and coming up gruesome shooting sending shock waves all over, even across the world. more on that, next. >> the canister fly across the

auditorium. and i assumed there is a fire work. that is policedded by another three shots. i realized this is real gunfire. e a good

weekend. our coverage continues with a live edition of the o'reilly captioned by closed captioning services, inc. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. another sad day in america and that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. bad things happen to good people all the time. nobody knows why. it is just the way life is. once again, we have mass murder in america and the killer is a young man who was simply out of his mind. nobody's fault. no policy deficit. it is just an atrocity that is impossible to explain. this is the fifth time in 13 years an american has committed mass murder. columbine, colorado, april 20, 1999. 13 dead. 26 wounded. after two students shot them

down. the two then committed suicide. april 1 16, 2007. a deranged man on the virginia tech campus kills 33 people including himself. no motive for the homicides. november 5, 2009. army major nadal hassan kills 13 americans at fort hood, texas. currently charged with premeditated murder. his trial will begin next year. and january 8, 2011 gerald love lofner. now, we have 24-year-old james holmes from san diego who allegedly killed 12 people, wounding 59 others in a colorado movie theater. the crime took place in aurora a suburb of denver. a place where i lived for two years. aurora is a middle class neighborhood, just regular folks. colorado authorities are holding holmes and there is no questie